Here's something else Vic Pentz, the pastor of the Presbyterian USA's biggest church said: "The battle is lost for evangelical renewal groups within the system. The old 'stay-fight-and win' strategy is history."
What strategy? Grumbling, screaming, hoping things will change isn't a strategy-it's capitulation. All these complainers have never tried to identify why it was that the GA was always more liberal than the members of the church. They simply complained about it. The liberals were out there figuring out ways to get around the constitution (AIs) and bypass the membership and the conservatives had no plan except to be appalled.
Well here's news. One poor little ignored Presbytery has figured out a strategy and while everyone else was focused on the chasity clause it laid the groundwork for massive change in the future. No more right now but wait until the 219th!
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I'm uncomfortable with the derogatory implications against liberals in this post.
What implication? Seems to me that it's a lot more derogatory toward conservatives who act like old ladies than liberals. If you take offense at the ideas that liberals try to get around the constitution you need to make an argument that the PUP AI wasn't exactly that-I voted against it for that very reason not because of what they were trying to do. The current AI is the same thing. 75% of the Presbyteries oppose the change so what other purpose does the AI have?
Andy
ReplyDeleteHmmm.... Apparently I can't reply to a 2nd level comment.
Anyway ... the way that I see it, the current G-6.0108 AI and the PUP report are consistent with traditional presbyterianism - that the local body makes the ordination decision.
The other AI simply removes a PREVIOUS one that set ordination standards. In that, the original AI was really against traditional presbyterianism by mandating a decision properly made by the ordaining body.
Last, the 75% figure is a few years old now. I wonder what it'll be this time?
I see the PUP AI and this year's as asserting local control, as it has always been.